Friday, November 13, 2009

Inter * Marriages

No no, * doesn't refer some censored word. Being a techie [;)] I used * in the context that it refers to anything.

Inter national (Rajiv-Sonia), Inter state (all in Chetan Bhagat's 2 states fever), Inter religion (Jain-Christian why always hindu-muslim?), Inter caste (Mudaliar - Thevar), Inter sub-caste (Iyer - Iyengar), Inter sub sub caste (Vadakalai-Thenkalai).I heard there were marriages conducted between human beings and donkeys too.. Not sure [:P].

hoof..how many divisions? Yes, * really refers to anything.

The level of tolerance towards such marriages differs between individuals. Some are OK till inter caste but nothing more than that. Some are OK as long as both belong to India, thanks to IT.

But most of the Indian marriages are not Inter*.

This post is not trying to speak for one and ridicule other. There have been successful stories in both sides and for sure, failures too. I will just show the roots of issue and leave it to the discretion of readers to take a stand.

First let me tell how I perceive these divisions/groups/societies. It is something like the "Divide and Conquer" algorithm. Divide a bigger problem into smaller ones, solve each small problem so that the bigger problem automatically gets solved. Probably, that should be the reason for these divides. People belonging to a group will help each other for their welfare. Similarly if all the groups does that, the entire human race will prosper. In this angle, division is not a problem.

Problem starts when one society wants to improve at the cost of other. We don't know who started what. But the problem never ends. I will drag you down because you will any way drag me down. That is the mentality.

With this existing less tolerant social system, 2 people (obviously men and women, this post does not speak about homosexuals) start loving each other. Most of the times, those 2 will belong to different sides of the 'Inter boundary lines' their parents have drawn.

Why do parents draw those boundaries? In most of the cases, those boundaries are drawn to ensure that they and their children don't get neglected from the society or group they belong to.

Here comes the interesting scenario. All parents in that society draw that line, afraid of being neglected by others in their society. So a parent won't draw a line if there is no fear of neglect. This is the reality. "I am afraid of others but I am also an other to others". Got it? :) Come on Karthik, what a philosophy! It has to be inscribed in some monument ;)

Inter* marriages happening at high class families (very rich) and low class families (very poor) usually don't face much problems. One don't care much about others and other have better problems to think of. Only in middle class, this is considered as a big problem.

Now what should those 2 true(!?) lovers do?

If they go ahead and marry against the wishes of parents, they may have to face tough time. They would be happy of their marriage but bitter consequences have to be faced. There may be a situation where no one will be there to help that girl during her delivery. Whose group will the child belong to? Struggle struggle struggle. Even though they struggle. most probably, they won't stop their children from doing Inter* marriages. So if many more marriages of that sort happens, then the reluctance towards Inter* marriages will go off and  the entire social system may change.



But should those 2 face such a long battle just for changing the social system? Rather, why don't they understand the reality and part away leading a smooth life with so many relatives, so many well-wishers from their communities. But chances are that they won't allow Inter* marriages of their children too with the same ground of being neglected. Whats the result? No change in social system.



There is no trade-off. Either live with an angel in hell or live with a ghost in heaven. Which one to choose????

How can I say? :)

But I want to tell one thing. Don't think, more Inter* marriages will lead to a division-less society. Groupism is human's nature. Lets say Inter religion marriages is accepted by everyone. Then new combo groups like HinduMuslim, ChristianHindu, JainMuslim will form and there will be again 2 lovers from 2 different combo groups trying to break this and such people will eventually form another group, say HinduMuslimJain and that may be called as a caste "HMJ" some centuries later. Breaking and making divisions is a cycle. You and me won't be alive to see all those transitions.

Feel free to post your comment :)


P.S: I have done lot of assumptions while writing this post. So if you are going to counter argue on something, I may possibly say that an assumption ;)

13 comments:

Narayanan said...

llaam sari..u when giving kalyaana saapadu...karthik ??

Anonymous said...

I felt it a Good Read... As you said I found some to be your mere assumptions :-)

Karthik.R said...

@Narayan

Question to br asked to my father. Pls kelunga :)

Karthik.R said...

@Sakkthiss

I know there are different possibilities and everything can't be written in a post. May be, some day, I will write a book(!!??) where I will allot one chapter for each assumption made :)

arun said...

Society is the main thing which make parents to oppose love marriage.1 main thing is, in India we are not independent on our relatives as like the western countries.if they hink no one is need for them, then they can go ahead but as an Indian mentality they cant...im sure abt it.more over at many occasion the life of younger brother or sister will get affected in many ways if elder brother/sister fell in love. everything ll change but slowly...

Karthik.R said...

@Arun

I am reminded of Devar magan dialogue.

"Medhuva na evlo medhuva ya? Adhuvaraikkum naan uyiroda irukka maatten pola"

:D

jithendrian said...

Hey Karthik , Inter*Marriage is basically for Love Marriages.Since a true love is mind related so anyone can love anyone. Now my point is tolerance level is important.
If a family has high tolerant level, if the family is very social,they will tell their child can marry any human. means (HINDU_MUSLIM , MUSLIM-CHRISTIAN etc...) ..
Like if you see the hierarchy(Tree) i come in the leaf. I can marry a girl from Vadagalai Iyengar only. My Family can not tolerate even if i go for Thengalai !!:)

Karthik.R said...

Jithendrian has given 'The Statement'. Sorry to non-Vadakalai, non-Iyengar, non-Brahmin, non-Hindu, non-Tamil, non-Indian girls who are currently crazy on Jithu :)

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Sanket Jain said...

I don't know that why people always think about themselves. It's always easy to say that we all are one and we have rights to choose our partner. That's right, but don't you think that your family also has the right of your marriage. They proud of you and they want right girl for you that can understand your culture and can adjust with you. You simply go and marry with a Russian girl, then do you it will be successful, it may , but it has very less probability. Marriage is not about 2 persons, its about 2 families and their new relations. Marriage is one of the core building block of the society, and we should respect it.

Your assumptions has no base, just your inner feelings. India still has very less divorce cases, why?? think about that.......

Karthik.R said...

@Sanket

As if I am forcing everyone to do Inter* marriages. I just wanted to throw my perception on the existing social acceptance to such marriages and leave it to the discretion of reader to take a stand. Didn't I tell the advantage of having relatives and well wishers around (with photo)?

Ok. Let me start questioning you now :)

On what base are you saying that probability of successful marriage with a Russian is less? Some groundless assumptions like I did? ;)

I will put the other way around. Marriage is not just between 2 families. The personal interest of the couples is important than the families. What say? :)

jithendrian said...

I agree with Sanket. Marriage is not just two people's interest. It will be a successful one, only when two families are united. In our culture when there is a function the entire family enjoys and binds. That is why still Indians are respected all over the world. We are rich in culture.All movies are crap saying about inter * marriages. In movies till their marriages they are showing , after that only problem arise that they are not showing. Anyway if you dive deep into this , i would prefer a marriage whether it is inter*marriage or intra*marriage it should be permitted by the family. If family agrees we can do anything we want.For that we need to convince our parents.

Karthik.R said...

Good that you guys took a stand. Even my stand is same. We have always had our parents in mind and have avoided any unacceptable activity.

But come on, all need not be that resistive. Some consideration should be given to the likes of children too.